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	<title>Comments on: Powercolor HD 5870 PCS+ Review</title>
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		<title>By: lars</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2895</link>
		<dc:creator>lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I resently bought Vertex3D 5870 (its the same company just different name in EU) and couldnt be more satisfied with the card. First thing I was worried was the heat but it seems these cards run very cool and are quiet. Performance is ofcourse the same as it has been since the launch and what PC users now lack are GAMEs that actually utilize thse amazing beasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I resently bought Vertex3D 5870 (its the same company just different name in EU) and couldnt be more satisfied with the card. First thing I was worried was the heat but it seems these cards run very cool and are quiet. Performance is ofcourse the same as it has been since the launch and what PC users now lack are GAMEs that actually utilize thse amazing beasts.</p>
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		<title>By: When bobby met berty</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2684</link>
		<dc:creator>When bobby met berty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the HD5850 is the best value card on the market as you can overclock most of them to reach HD5870 performance levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the HD5850 is the best value card on the market as you can overclock most of them to reach HD5870 performance levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockstar lover</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockstar lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very impressed with this card. love the design and looks.</description>
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		<title>By: dbdb</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator>dbdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent review of a very good product.</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are too expensive for me, but I like this 5870 more than the others reviewed here. why? the noise levels are class leading. I hate fan noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are too expensive for me, but I like this 5870 more than the others reviewed here. why? the noise levels are class leading. I hate fan noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power consumption is a little high, but the efficiency seems good, thanks to the cooling system, low noise, great performance, high overclocking options. good well done I say !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power consumption is a little high, but the efficiency seems good, thanks to the cooling system, low noise, great performance, high overclocking options. good well done I say !</p>
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		<title>By: Fraline</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2679</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powercolor are really good, I feel the need to defend them. I had a few of their cards in the past, as they are normally cheaper than sapphire. never had a problem, they are still working in older machine actually !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powercolor are really good, I feel the need to defend them. I had a few of their cards in the past, as they are normally cheaper than sapphire. never had a problem, they are still working in older machine actually !</p>
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		<title>By: hairy beast</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2678</link>
		<dc:creator>hairy beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely review of a very sexy product. I cant get enough of the ATI reviews on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely review of a very sexy product. I cant get enough of the ATI reviews on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2677</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would assume going on the results that this is quieter than the sapphire toxic, but kitguru changed testing methods a while ago so hard to tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would assume going on the results that this is quieter than the sapphire toxic, but kitguru changed testing methods a while ago so hard to tell.</p>
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		<title>By: gareth cringle</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>gareth cringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is quite close against the sapphire toxic card. which is quieter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is quite close against the sapphire toxic card. which is quieter?</p>
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		<title>By: dark knight</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>dark knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSI Lightning or this? hard choice. MSI lightning is faster, more expensive, but slightly louder. I hate noise and think id opt for this and just overclock it a bit more. views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSI Lightning or this? hard choice. MSI lightning is faster, more expensive, but slightly louder. I hate noise and think id opt for this and just overclock it a bit more. views?</p>
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		<title>By: hank the tank</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>hank the tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any place selling these in canada?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any place selling these in canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Trent</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2673</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powercolor are a really good make, as far as I know most companies get these cards made in the same factory anyway. palit make most of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powercolor are a really good make, as far as I know most companies get these cards made in the same factory anyway. palit make most of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decent pricing really considering the product. Looks good too, shame the black cooler is a bit boring looking, more heatpipe showing would look better :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decent pricing really considering the product. Looks good too, shame the black cooler is a bit boring looking, more heatpipe showing would look better <img src='http://www.kitguru.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cecil</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2671</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know, I still wouldnt touch powercolor, they seem like a mickey mouse eastern make to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know, I still wouldnt touch powercolor, they seem like a mickey mouse eastern make to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Perk</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Perk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best graphics card reviews on the net. just enough useful info to help me work out what to buy. love the db testing and power consumption testing. sites that test power over a complete system load are wasting their time, I can&#039;t tell what is the card or the system. much too difficult to work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best graphics card reviews on the net. just enough useful info to help me work out what to buy. love the db testing and power consumption testing. sites that test power over a complete system load are wasting their time, I can&#8217;t tell what is the card or the system. much too difficult to work out.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah. The only rules I know are the memory speeds have to fall into guidelines, so legally they could have put the memory at 1250mhz, to give samsungs 5000mhz rating, any higher is dodgy and I think they would be open for suing.

The core, thats different, its clearly capable of 950mhz easily, even across a range of cards, and they are doing this now with the secondary PCS++ card just released. I suppose they had to charge £10 so people who bought the PCS+ werent pissed off it was the same price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah. The only rules I know are the memory speeds have to fall into guidelines, so legally they could have put the memory at 1250mhz, to give samsungs 5000mhz rating, any higher is dodgy and I think they would be open for suing.</p>
<p>The core, thats different, its clearly capable of 950mhz easily, even across a range of cards, and they are doing this now with the secondary PCS++ card just released. I suppose they had to charge £10 so people who bought the PCS+ werent pissed off it was the same price.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2668</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isnt there a rule book guide that ATI send out to their partners about not overclocking past specific speeds? I think this has something to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isnt there a rule book guide that ATI send out to their partners about not overclocking past specific speeds? I think this has something to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois lebon</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2667</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois lebon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the overclock is too weak, for such a good product. the PCS++ is clearly out to fix that mistake. seems a bit sly to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the overclock is too weak, for such a good product. the PCS++ is clearly out to fix that mistake. seems a bit sly to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeo</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2666</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That overclock on the manual page is insane, why the hell are they selling them with such crap overclocks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That overclock on the manual page is insane, why the hell are they selling them with such crap overclocks?</p>
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		<title>By: Trev Mang</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Trev Mang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its impressive, but most of these overclocked cards are very similar in the HD58xx range. hard to get excited anymore.</description>
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		<title>By: Flo</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2664</link>
		<dc:creator>Flo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>havent read it all yet, but I always check out the dBA pages on kitguru as I love that testing methodology you use. On this alone the powercolor card is massively impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>havent read it all yet, but I always check out the dBA pages on kitguru as I love that testing methodology you use. On this alone the powercolor card is massively impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: dilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2663</link>
		<dc:creator>dilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stefan, there is a head to head on kitguru with the HD5870 sapphire card and a GTX480. check the review index :) shows t he figures, which would be almost identical for this card too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stefan, there is a head to head on kitguru with the HD5870 sapphire card and a GTX480. check the review index <img src='http://www.kitguru.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  shows t he figures, which would be almost identical for this card too.</p>
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		<title>By: derek</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2662</link>
		<dc:creator>derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the cooler, but it looks quite large, might not fit into some small chassis.</description>
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		<title>By: fluffychicken</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2661</link>
		<dc:creator>fluffychicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very impressive card this, price isnt too bad either considering a reference, loud, hot running GTX480 is £50 more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very impressive card this, price isnt too bad either considering a reference, loud, hot running GTX480 is £50 more.</p>
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		<title>By: AMD4EVER</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2660</link>
		<dc:creator>AMD4EVER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats an awesome board, love the noise figures, think its quieter than the GTX460 which I didnt think was possible. right?</description>
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		<title>By: Tri Color</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>Tri Color</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the HD5870 series, best high cards on the market right now. HD5970 and GTX480 dont count, they are far too loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the HD5870 series, best high cards on the market right now. HD5970 and GTX480 dont count, they are far too loud.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2658</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame there was no GTX480 tested in this review, would be good to see performance against it.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2657</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those noise levels are remarkable, it may not be the fastest HD5870, that goes to the MSI lightning, but its the quietest. id take this one over any other performance card, just due to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those noise levels are remarkable, it may not be the fastest HD5870, that goes to the MSI lightning, but its the quietest. id take this one over any other performance card, just due to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric K</title>
		<link>http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/powercolor-hd-5870-pcs-review/comment-page-1/#comment-2656</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falls in line with what I would expect performance wise. Quite disappointed on the overclock and I think what you said in the conclusion was spot on. I would think they have brought these cards out, realised how much more they can do, updated the bios. put an extra + on the box, and are charging £10 more for the &#039;extra&#039;. Id get the PCS+ and overclock it, like in this review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falls in line with what I would expect performance wise. Quite disappointed on the overclock and I think what you said in the conclusion was spot on. I would think they have brought these cards out, realised how much more they can do, updated the bios. put an extra + on the box, and are charging £10 more for the &#8216;extra&#8217;. Id get the PCS+ and overclock it, like in this review.</p>
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