Alder Lake-S | KitGuru https://www.kitguru.net KitGuru.net - Tech News | Hardware News | Hardware Reviews | IOS | Mobile | Gaming | Graphics Cards Mon, 25 Apr 2022 09:05:32 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/cropped-KITGURU-Light-Background-SQUARE2-32x32.png Alder Lake-S | KitGuru https://www.kitguru.net 32 32 Thermalright launches custom frame to stop Intel Alder Lake CPUs from bending https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/thermalright-launches-custom-frame-to-stop-intel-alder-lake-cpus-from-bending/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/thermalright-launches-custom-frame-to-stop-intel-alder-lake-cpus-from-bending/#respond Fri, 22 Apr 2022 15:44:03 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=557902 Reviewers and users alike have noticed that the IHS on Intel's 12th Gen Core Alder Lake chips is prone to bending due to pressure from the motherboard's latching system. Intel says this shouldn't be anything to worry about and should not impact performance. However, if you're still concerned, then Thermalright has now released a bending …

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Reviewers and users alike have noticed that the IHS on Intel's 12th Gen Core Alder Lake chips is prone to bending due to pressure from the motherboard's latching system. Intel says this shouldn't be anything to worry about and should not impact performance. However, if you're still concerned, then Thermalright has now released a bending corrector frame, which should help users avoid the issue. 

As reported by Cowcotland (via VideoCardz), Thermalright is releasing a bending corrector frame for Intel 12th Gen CPUs. The new frame will replace the stock mounting frame on the motherboard and is designed to hold the CPU in place without added pressure.

As far as availability goes, given that this is a niche product, it is only sold in limited regions. Currently, the frame corrector is available on Taobao for less than £5, and comes accompanied with a 1g tube of TF7 thermal paste.

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KitGuru says: Have many of you built an Alder Lake desktop PC since launch? Have you encountered any issues with the processor bending or warping after being mounted? 

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Intel Core i7-12650HX mobile chip revealed via benchmark https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-core-i7-12650hx-mobile-chip-revealed-via-benchmark/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-core-i7-12650hx-mobile-chip-revealed-via-benchmark/#respond Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:00:43 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=552607 Intel has already released many 12th Gen Core processors for laptops, but we have yet to see Alder Lake-S. While we still don't know when they will become available on laptops, some processors belonging to this series have been spotted here and there, with the latest one being the Core i7-12650HX. A UserBenchmark entry shared by …

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Intel has already released many 12th Gen Core processors for laptops, but we have yet to see Alder Lake-S. While we still don't know when they will become available on laptops, some processors belonging to this series have been spotted here and there, with the latest one being the Core i7-12650HX.

A UserBenchmark entry shared by VideoCardz shows a 12th Gen Core i7-12650HX processor paired with 40GB of DDR5-4800 memory. The Core i7-12650HX is said to belong to the Alder Lake-S series. Rumours claim the series will use desktop chips in a BGA socket and feature a 45-55W TDP.

As per the processor specifications listed in the entry, this CPU will feature 14x cores (6x P-cores and 8x E-cores) and 20x threads. That puts it with the same configuration as the Core i7-12700H, but the higher power limits should increase performance. By comparing the Core i7-12650HX entry with those of the Core i7-12700H, we can see the latter being slightly outperformed by the HX CPU.

Another difference we expect to see between these two chips is the iGPU, in which the unreleased chip is rumoured to pack a Xe Graphics with 32 EUs while the i7-12700H sports the 96 EU Iris Xe Graphics G7. For now, we still don't have a release date for the Alder Lake-S mobile chips.

KitGuru says: Would you consider grabbing a laptop with an Alder Lake-S mobile chip? Do you think these chips will be worth it over Alder Lake-H?

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MSI enables trial support for AVX-512 on latest MEG Z690 Unify-X BIOS https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/msi-enables-trial-support-for-avx-512-on-latest-meg-z690-unify-x-bios/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/msi-enables-trial-support-for-avx-512-on-latest-meg-z690-unify-x-bios/#respond Wed, 02 Feb 2022 15:51:09 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=548829 Just before the Alder Lake-S launch, Intel decided it was best to disable support for AVX-512 and eventually blocked user-made workarounds to re-enable it. Now, some motherboard makers are taking matters into their own hands, with MSI launching a new BIOS with trial support for AVX-512.  Xavier Amberger found the new AVX-512 trial option on …

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Just before the Alder Lake-S launch, Intel decided it was best to disable support for AVX-512 and eventually blocked user-made workarounds to re-enable it. Now, some motherboard makers are taking matters into their own hands, with MSI launching a new BIOS with trial support for AVX-512. 

Xavier Amberger found the new AVX-512 trial option on the latest MSI MEG Z690 Unify-X A22 BIOS and put it to the test in the y-cruncher benchmark.

After flashing the latest BIOS and selecting the new microcode, Amberger tried their Core i9-12900K on y-cruncher, setting a new record for the world's fastest 8-core CPU on ambient cooling in this test.

The result isn't surprising, considering Amberger had already shown how much better AVX-512 is compared to AVX-2, the default instruction set for AVX-512 instructions when the former is disabled. AVX-512 not only is more efficient, but it also scores significantly higher.

KitGuru says: Why would Intel disable an instruction set that's clearly better than the alternative? Could it be related to thermal issues resulting from prolonged CPU operation using the AVX-512 instruction set? Do you think other motherboard vendors will enable trial support? 

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Intel expands 12th Gen Core lineup with new desktop and mobile processors https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-expands-12th-gen-core-lineup-with-new-desktop-and-mobile-processors/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-expands-12th-gen-core-lineup-with-new-desktop-and-mobile-processors/#respond Wed, 05 Jan 2022 14:00:10 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=545519 As we've come to expect from Intel's CES 2022 keynote, the company announced new 12th Gen Core processors. Out of the 50 new processors introduced during the keynote, 22 are targeted at desktops, while the remaining 28 are for laptops. Ranging from the entry-level Pentiums up to Core i9 powerhouses, Intel introduced a total of …

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As we've come to expect from Intel's CES 2022 keynote, the company announced new 12th Gen Core processors. Out of the 50 new processors introduced during the keynote, 22 are targeted at desktops, while the remaining 28 are for laptops.

Ranging from the entry-level Pentiums up to Core i9 powerhouses, Intel introduced a total of 22x new desktop processors. Like the K and KF processors, the 12th Gen Core non-K, T and F series CPUs are based on the Alder Lake platform, featuring the same hybrid architecture with support for DDR4/5 memory and Intel Graphics 700 series (except the F series). As per usual, the T processors have a 35W TDP, boosting up to 106W depending on the processor. The non-K and F processors come with a 46-65W TDP and a maximum turbo power of 202W.

To complement the launch of the new Core processors, Intel also introduced the new motherboard chipsets: H670, B660 and H610. Unlike the Z690, none supports CPU overclocking, but memory overclocking is enabled on H670 and B660 boards. Connectivity-wise, the H670 stands just a tad below the Z690, packing the same amount of PCIe 4.0, slightly fewer PCIe 3.0 lanes and USB ports. The B660 should be the go-to solution for entry-level gamers, featuring everything the average user might need. As for the H610 boards, these are targeted at basic users, as seen by the single memory channel and lack of PCIe 4.0 lanes.

Moreover, Intel has finally unveiled the new box coolers coming with these new processors. The RS1 cooler is the entry-level that will accompany Pentium and Celeron processors. Then, the similar RM1 cooler (added blue halo around the top of the heatsink) comes with the i3, i5 and i7 processors. At last, there's the RH1 cooler for the i9 CPUs, featuring controllable ARGB lighting and a bigger heatsink.

The 12th Gen Core H processors for enthusiast laptops come in a 45W TDP package, boosting up to 115W when needed. This series consists only of i5, i7 and i9 processors that can clock up to 5GHz and feature up to 14 cores (6 P-cores and 8 E-cores) and 20 threads. At the top of this series, there's the i9-12900HK, offering 28% more gaming performance than the i9-11980HK. In 3D rendering workloads, users can expect up to 43% more performance from 12th Gen Core CPUs over their predecessors.

Memory support on the 12th Gen Core H series was extended to be compatible with DDR5/LPDDR5 and DDR4/LPDDR4 modules clocked up to 4800MT/s. Moreover, there's integrated Intel Wi-Fi 6E (Gig+) connectivity, iGPUs with up to 96EUs, and support for Thunderbolt 4 ports capable of transferring data up to 40Gbps.

Besides the H-series for laptops, there's also the P and U-series processors. The P-series processors come in a 28W TDP package that can increase to 64W, offering up to 4.8GHz clock speeds. Like the H-series, these processors pack up to 14 cores, 20 threads and an iGPU with up to 96EUs. This series consists solely of i3, i5 and i7 CPUs.

As for the U-series, there's the 9-29W and the 15-55W processors. Featuring up to 10x cores and 12x threads, these processors pack iGPU with up to 96EUs and can reach maximum clock speeds of 4.7/4.8GHz, despite their low power consumption.

New laptops and OEM systems featuring Intel's latest processors are expected to release starting Q1 2022.

KitGuru says: Are you planning to buy a new laptop or build a new desktop soon? With the expanded 12th Gen Core lineup, there should be new options to consider when choosing the specifications of your next system.

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MSI may have revealed Intel’s Alder Lake-S launch date https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/msi-may-have-revealed-intels-alder-lake-s-launch-date/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/msi-may-have-revealed-intels-alder-lake-s-launch-date/#respond Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:27:45 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=533377 Like several other cooler makers, MSI will also be offering a free upgrade kit so that users can continue to use their current CPU cooler on the upcoming Intel LGA 1700 socket. The new socket will launch on new motherboards alongside Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S desktop processors, which may be arriving on the 4th of …

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Like several other cooler makers, MSI will also be offering a free upgrade kit so that users can continue to use their current CPU cooler on the upcoming Intel LGA 1700 socket. The new socket will launch on new motherboards alongside Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S desktop processors, which may be arriving on the 4th of November. 

While promoting the free mounting upgrade kit, MSI made it clear that the hardware would not be available until the 4th of November. It is believed that this is the day that the sales and review embargos for Alder Lake-S and 600-series motherboards will lift.

Intel is due to hold an event on the 27th of October, during which we expect to see the full line-up of Alder Lake-S processors officially announced, followed by availability and reviews a week later. MSI's mounting kit promotion seems to confirm the November 4th launch date.

The first wave of processors should include the Core i9-12900K, Core i7-12700K and the Core i5-12600K, in addition to “B” and “H” 600-series motherboards. We're also expecting to see an influx of high-end Z690 motherboards, but the launch window for these is still unclear.

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KitGuru says: It looks like November will be CPU upgrade season. Are any of you considering making the jump to Intel's 12th Gen processors? 

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Intel might refresh its reference CPU coolers for Alder Lake-S launch https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-might-refresh-its-reference-cpu-coolers-for-alder-lake-s-launch/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-might-refresh-its-reference-cpu-coolers-for-alder-lake-s-launch/#respond Sun, 12 Sep 2021 08:57:21 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=531353 With Alder Lake-S, Intel will be debuting the LGA1700 socket. This socket is known to be considerably different from most sockets for Intel Core processors, featuring a rectangular form. This means that current reference CPU coolers for Intel processors won't work, so Intel is apparently planning to refresh them. The first images of these alleged …

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With Alder Lake-S, Intel will be debuting the LGA1700 socket. This socket is known to be considerably different from most sockets for Intel Core processors, featuring a rectangular form. This means that current reference CPU coolers for Intel processors won't work, so Intel is apparently planning to refresh them.

The first images of these alleged new Intel reference CPU coolers were shared by @Ayxerious (via VideoCardz). The slide features three different designs developed with customer and partner feedback, with each being dedicated to certain processor families.

First, there's the Laminar RH1 cooler for Core i9 processors, featuring RGB lighting and a taller design than the rest. Then we have the Laminar RM1 cooler for Core i7, i5 and i3 chips, which comes with an RGB halo around the heatsink, similar to AMD's reference CPU coolers. Lastly, there's the Laminar RS1 cooler, which should come with Pentium and Celeron CPUs. This one looks to be the same as the RM1 cooler, but without the RGB halo.

These three cooler designs are supposed to be paired with 65W TDP processors, suggesting we might see different solutions for higher TDP CPUs. However, it's also possible these higher TDP CPUs won't come with a reference cooler at all, as Intel has been doing with past generations.

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KitGuru says: Judging from this slide, it looks like Intel finally decided to update its reference CPU coolers. With that said, the authenticity of the slide has not been confirmed yet. Intel is expected to unveil its Alder Lake-S processors in late October. 

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Intel 12th Gen CPU pricing leaks via European retailers https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-12th-gen-cpu-pricing-leaks-via-european-retailers/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-12th-gen-cpu-pricing-leaks-via-european-retailers/#respond Fri, 03 Sep 2021 10:44:40 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=530272 We're still a short while away from Intel launching its upcoming ‘Alder Lake-S' 12th Gen Core desktop processors, but retail pricing appears to have leaked already. Pricing information for K-series processors in Europe has been uncovered, both with and without VAT.  The prices leaked by @momomo_us come from three different dutch retailers according to Tweakers. The image …

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We're still a short while away from Intel launching its upcoming ‘Alder Lake-S' 12th Gen Core desktop processors, but retail pricing appears to have leaked already. Pricing information for K-series processors in Europe has been uncovered, both with and without VAT. 

The prices leaked by @momomo_us come from three different dutch retailers according to Tweakers. The image shared by the leaker shows the CPU prices with and without VAT, including those of the i9-11900K on the same retailers, allowing us to easily compare them. Overall, there seems to be a €20-35 difference between the K and KF processors, depending on the retailer.

Analysing the prices of the 12th Gen Core i9 CPUs at the different retailers, they vary considerably, ranging from €540 to €613 without VAT and €653 to €741 with VAT. The Core i9-12900KF CPU has a similar price range, from €519 to €586 without VAT, to €628 to €709 with VAT. Compared to the price of its Rocket Lake-S counterpart, the price difference can be as low as €10 or as high as €168.

Moving on to the Core i7 processors, prices of both K and KF processors are generally around the €500 mark, with one retailer expecting to sell the Core i7-12700KF processor at €450.

Lastly, there's the Core i5 series, which includes the Core i5-12600K and the i5-12600KF. Pricing for these SKUs doesn't fluctuate as much, with the Core i5-12600K averaging at €357, while the Core i5-12600KF costs €327 on average.

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KitGuru says: It does look like we can expect a price increase over Intel 11th Gen. Of course, Intel hasn't announced anything officially yet, so we'll have to wait a little while longer for confirmation. 

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Intel Alder Lake-S peak power recommendations are up to 28% higher than Rocket Lake-S https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-peak-power-recommendations-are-up-to-28-higher-than-rocket-lake-s/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-peak-power-recommendations-are-up-to-28-higher-than-rocket-lake-s/#respond Sat, 07 Aug 2021 12:16:43 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=526635 As the launch of Intel Alder Lake approaches, we keep learning more about the new platform through leaks, getting more details as the date comes closer. The latest leak details the CPU’s power recommendations based on their TDP, which have apparently increased significantly over the Rocket Lake-S platform. The information was shared by FCPowerUp (via HXL), showing peak …

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As the launch of Intel Alder Lake approaches, we keep learning more about the new platform through leaks, getting more details as the date comes closer. The latest leak details the CPU’s power recommendations based on their TDP, which have apparently increased significantly over the Rocket Lake-S platform.

The information was shared by FCPowerUp (via HXL), showing peak power increases of over 28% across the various CPU's TDPs. The power recommendations table also includes 165W TDP processors, but Intel hasn't launched any 165W TDP CPU belonging to the 10th or 11th Gen series.

As per the image, Intel 10th, 11th, and 12th Gen processors will share the same continuous current recommendations, but peak power recommendations will differ considerably. For example, the 35W TDP processors would increase from 16.5A to 20.5A, resulting in a 24.2% increase, from 198W to 246W. The 65W TDP is the most significant, from 360W (30A) to 462W (38.5A), a 28.3% increase. As for the 125W, where the 10th and 11th Gen ‘K' processors stand, the increase is 14.7%, from 408W (34A) to 468W (39A). Lastly, the 165W TDP CPUs would increase from 480W (40A) to 540W (45A), translating into a 12.5% increase.

These peak power consumptions are only relevant for when processors enter PL3 or PL4, something that's usually very brief. Nonetheless, both peak power consumption and current are relevant to choose the right PSU for a system. 

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KitGuru says: Are you planning to build a new PC when Alder Lake releases? Does your current PSU meet the power requirements to power up an Alder Lake-based system?

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Intel to launch first Alder Lake K-series CPUs and Z690 motherboards this year https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-to-launch-first-alder-lake-k-series-cpus-and-z690-motherboards-this-year/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-to-launch-first-alder-lake-k-series-cpus-and-z690-motherboards-this-year/#respond Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:30:14 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=525013 There has been a lot of buzz around Intel this week, as the company announced its process node naming changes and a development roadmap leading up through 2025. Now, we know a bit more about Intel's plans, with reports claiming that we will see the first Intel Alder Lake K-series CPU later this year, as …

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There has been a lot of buzz around Intel this week, as the company announced its process node naming changes and a development roadmap leading up through 2025. Now, we know a bit more about Intel's plans, with reports claiming that we will see the first Intel Alder Lake K-series CPU later this year, as well as the first Z690 chipset motherboards – although there will be a wider rollout in 2022. 

According to Igor's Lab, Intel will be unveiling new Alder Lake processors and a new motherboard platform sometime between the 25th of October and the 19th of November, which suggests that Intel may announce them during its InnovatiON event. This event is scheduled to take place from the 27th of October to the 28th of October. We'll only see a limited part of the planned line-up this year though, with other CPUs and additional motherboards and chipsets set to be announced in early 2022, possibly at CES.

The report also states that motherboard and PSU manufacturers will not be implementing Intel's ATX12VO standard at this time. With that in mind, we shouldn't see any major changes to motherboard or PSU pricing.

Based on an older report, Intel was always interested in making PSU and motherboard manufacturers adopt the new power standard, despite lacking time to do it correctly. Manufacturers needed 4-5 months to do it, but with the first Alder Lake-S CPUs scheduled to release later this year, they were always working against time to make ATX12VO-compliant motherboards and PSUs.

However, that doesn't mean we won't see any 600-series motherboards using the ATX12VO standard. They are just likely to release in 2022 and later, giving manufacturers enough time to implement the new standard.

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KitGuru says: New Intel CPUs are on the horizon. Are you planning a PC upgrade this year? Will you be waiting to see Intel's latest desktop processors before making the jump? 

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Upcoming Intel LGA socket 17xx pictured, more details emerge https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-lga-socket-17xx-gets-pictured-more-details-emerge/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-lga-socket-17xx-gets-pictured-more-details-emerge/#respond Tue, 29 Jun 2021 13:06:41 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=521613 In the last few days, new information regarding the upcoming Intel LGA socket 17xx came to light alongside the first photos of the socket itself. The socket is currently listed for sale on a Chinese retailer, and according to the photos on the listing, the socket's cover shows it's also compatible with the LGA-18xx. Although …

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In the last few days, new information regarding the upcoming Intel LGA socket 17xx came to light alongside the first photos of the socket itself. The socket is currently listed for sale on a Chinese retailer, and according to the photos on the listing, the socket's cover shows it's also compatible with the LGA-18xx. Although this socket has already been mentioned, we are still unsure what CPUs will be compatible with it.

The first picture of the Intel LGA 17xx/18xx socket's cover was shared by @momomo_us. Also known as ‘socket V', the first time we heard about this was in late May, back when details of the mounting mechanism leaked.

Although it hasn't been confirmed, there are already a few rumours about how the LGA 18xx socket will be used. Some say the LGA 18xx socket is for Meteor Lake-S processors, but considering Intel plans to use the LGA 17xx socket for three generations (Alder Lake-S, Raptor Lake-S, and Meteor Lake-S) we aren't sure on that theory. Another possibility is that the 18xx socket will be used on Xeon Workstation processors.

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In a new report, Igor'sLAB detailed a bit more about the upcoming socket and confirmed the rumoured rectangular shape we've seen in multiple leaks. Besides that, dimensions of the whole socket were shared, including the backplate, hole pattern, and other parts, the dimensions of the CPU's IHS, and even the motherboard “leave-out” areas.

Although this information might only be interesting for a few, it can benefit cooler manufacturers and allow them to start designing cooling solutions for the upcoming platform. That's if they don't have the information already, which, according to Igor, they shouldn't.

KitGuru says: Considering the massive number of differences between the new socket and older ones, even if cooler manufacturers release an adaptive bracket, reusing an older cooling solution might not be viable for those planning to upgrade their system with an Alder Lake-S CPU. 

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Intel’s upcoming ‘socket V’ may force you to buy a new cooler for Alder Lake-S CPUs https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intels-upcoming-socket-v-may-force-you-to-buy-a-new-cooler-for-alder-lake-s-cpus/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intels-upcoming-socket-v-may-force-you-to-buy-a-new-cooler-for-alder-lake-s-cpus/#respond Tue, 25 May 2021 15:00:27 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=516318 A new report detailing the size of Intel's new socket V (LGA1700) claims that the new socket will have a lower height and feature a more rectangular hole pattern, strengthening the rumours about Alder Lake processors coming in a rectangular shape, although it may come at the cost of cooler compatibility.  Unlike the LGA1200 socket …

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A new report detailing the size of Intel's new socket V (LGA1700) claims that the new socket will have a lower height and feature a more rectangular hole pattern, strengthening the rumours about Alder Lake processors coming in a rectangular shape, although it may come at the cost of cooler compatibility. 

Unlike the LGA1200 socket used by Rocket Lake CPUs, Alder Lake's LGA 1700 will be more rectangular and thinner by 1mm. This information comes from Igor's LAB, which had access to the schematics and 2D model of the new reference cooler for processors based on socket V.

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As per the schematics, the new hole pattern will measure 35.5×45.0mm, meaning that the upcoming Alder Lake processors are smaller than most modern HEDT CPUs. Considering this will be the first socket sized like this, existing coolers will only be compatible if cooler manufacturers release a proper bracket for the new socket – similarly to the upgrade kits that many cooler companies supplied during the transition from AM3 to AM4 on AMD systems.

This leak also brings about news for Intel's new reference CPU cooler, suggesting that Intel still plans to use Peltier effect-based cooling on its upcoming platform despite its inefficiency (cooling power consumption ≈ CPU power consumption).

KitGuru says: Socket changes are pretty routine for Intel, but they rarely change dimensions, enabling compatibility with popular CPU cooling solutions. With Alder Lake-S, the situation appears to be very different. 

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Intel reportedly wants motherboard manufacturers to adopt the ATX12VO standard in time for Alder Lake-S launch https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/intel-reportedly-wants-motherboard-manufacturers-to-adopt-the-atx12vo-standard-in-time-for-alder-lake-s-launch/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/joao-silva/intel-reportedly-wants-motherboard-manufacturers-to-adopt-the-atx12vo-standard-in-time-for-alder-lake-s-launch/#respond Sat, 15 May 2021 11:34:41 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=515533 It has been more than a year since we told you about the new ATX12VO standard, but adoption has been somewhat slow, with only a few motherboards supporting it. According to a leaked Intel document, a bigger push is coming in preparation for Alder Lake-S, although some PSU and motherboard manufacturers have their issues with …

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It has been more than a year since we told you about the new ATX12VO standard, but adoption has been somewhat slow, with only a few motherboards supporting it. According to a leaked Intel document, a bigger push is coming in preparation for Alder Lake-S, although some PSU and motherboard manufacturers have their issues with Intel's plans. 

According to VideoCardz, ATX12VO power supply makers need about 4 months to manufacture this type of PSU in high volume. As for motherboards vendors, they would need 4 to 5 months to “verify that ATX12VO motherboards, with the right features are available TTM (time-to-launch)”. Considering this information, if a company wants to have ATX12VO compatible devices available by the time Alder Lake-S releases, they need to start working with the PSU makers and motherboard manufacturers by the end of this month.

Motherboard vendors have confirmed that Intel is interested in making the ATX12VO standard more popular. Unfortunately for Intel, PSU and motherboard manufacturers are resisting its adoption. With that in mind, we could be heading towards a future where high-end Alder Lake Z690 motherboards stick to the current power supply standard, but entry level boards introduce the new standard Intel is hoping to bring to market.

The reason for starting with entry level boards is simple. The ATX12VO power standard offers improved efficiency, which can be rather important for system integrators looking to meet strict power regulations from certain entities.

KitGuru says: Changing long-standing habits and standards can be difficult, particularly when there are so many companies involved, each with their own interests. Do you think the PC hardware industry should move towards adopting the ATX12VO standard? Will this eventually become the norm?

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Intel ‘Alder Lake-S’ 12th Gen Core processors reportedly launching in November https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-12th-gen-core-processors-reportedly-launching-in-november/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-12th-gen-core-processors-reportedly-launching-in-november/#respond Tue, 11 May 2021 14:55:43 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=514910 We've known for a while now that Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S processors are due out in late 2021. Now, new reports indicate a more specific launch window, claiming that Intel's 12th Gen Core processors will be arriving in November, roughly eight months after Rocket Lake-S. The rumour coming from Wccftech also claims this will be …

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We've known for a while now that Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S processors are due out in late 2021. Now, new reports indicate a more specific launch window, claiming that Intel's 12th Gen Core processors will be arriving in November, roughly eight months after Rocket Lake-S.

The rumour coming from Wccftech also claims this will be the first platform with PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 support. In the last few weeks, Intel has been discussing the release of the Alder Lake-S platform with partners. While some motherboards may be limited to DDR4 memory instead of DDR5, PCIe 5.0 support is said to be in place across all upcoming motherboards.

For those who may not know, it's said that only the Z690 motherboards will support DDR5, leaving DDR4 memory for the ‘H' and ‘B' series motherboards.

Intel Alder Lake will be the company's first venture into the desktop segment using 10nm-based processors and a hybrid architecture featuring small and big cores. The CPU die will differ from past generations, featuring a more rectangular shape. The new socket will be the LGA 1700 and should last for a few generations, but this may still change before release.

KitGuru says: Intel may still delay the release of Alder Lake-S, but with so many rumours and claims pointing to a release later this year, it seems that Rocket Lake-S will be Intel's shortest-lived desktop platform. 

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Engineering sample leak gives our latest look at Intel ‘Alder Lake-S’ https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/engineering-sample-leak-gives-our-latest-look-at-intel-alder-lake-s/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/engineering-sample-leak-gives-our-latest-look-at-intel-alder-lake-s/#respond Thu, 06 May 2021 15:25:04 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=514309 Intel Alder Lake-S is leaking again. This time around, we have new details on an engineering sample for an Intel Core-1800 CPU, a 16C/24T processor. A datasheet has also found its way online, detailing all remaining specifications, including maximum operating clocks, power limits, T-Junction, and more. The datasheet, which was shared by Igor's LAB, shows that …

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Intel Alder Lake-S is leaking again. This time around, we have new details on an engineering sample for an Intel Core-1800 CPU, a 16C/24T processor. A datasheet has also found its way online, detailing all remaining specifications, including maximum operating clocks, power limits, T-Junction, and more.

The datasheet, which was shared by Igor's LAB, shows that this particular engineering sample is a B0 stepping, meaning specifications are likely not final. Following the same logic, the Core-1800 codename likely won't be the final name for this processor.

According to the datasheet, the Core-1800 features 8 big ‘Golden Cove' cores with Hyper Threading and 8x Atom ‘Gracemont' cores with no Hyper Threading. The base clock for all cores is set at a rather low 1.8GHz, but boost clocks can reach up to 4.6GHz on two big cores, 4.4GHz on up to four, 4.2GHz on up to six, and 4.0GHz on all. As for the Atom cores, four of them can go up to 3.4GHz, but eight can only go as high as 3.0GHz.

The CPU power values listed in the specifications suggest the processor will feature a 125W TDP/PL1, with a 56sec tau, and a PL2 of 228W with a 2.44ms tau. The processors' maximum junction temperature is reportedly 100ºC. The processor was running at 1.3147V.

Intel Alder Lake processors will be based on the LGA 1700 socket, and support PCIe 5.0, and DDR5-4800 and DDR4-3200 memory, depending on the motherboard. Rumours claim only the Z690 motherboards will support DDR5 memory, leaving the mainstream and entry-level ‘H' and ‘B' motherboards with support for DDR4.

Discuss on our Facebook page, HERE.

KitGuru says: Considering the Intel Core-1800 is just an ES2, there's still room for improvement. Base and boost clocks should increase slightly in latter revisions, possibly hitting 5.0GHz while boosting.

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Intel Alder Lake-S to bring a 20% boost to single-thread performance https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-to-bring-a-20-boost-to-single-thread-performance/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-to-bring-a-20-boost-to-single-thread-performance/#respond Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:36:27 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=508591 New Intel Alder Lake-S details have leaked this week, giving us a glimpse at what to expect from Intel's hybrid architecture CPU design. As it turns out, Alder Lake-S could provide a significant performance boost, with leaked presentation slides detailing a 20 percent uplift in single-thread performance. 

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New Intel Alder Lake-S details have leaked this week, giving us a glimpse at what to expect from Intel's hybrid architecture CPU design. As it turns out, Alder Lake-S could provide a significant performance boost, with leaked presentation slides detailing a 20 percent uplift in single-thread performance. 

As per the slide leaked by Videocardz, these processors will have up to 8 Gracemont and 8 Golden Cove CPU cores, confirming early rumours about the hybrid CPU architecture. Besides the single-thread uplift, Alder Lake-S will also offer up to 2x more multi-thread performance by using the new Gracemont cores and “hardware-guided scheduling”.

Other interesting features coming with Alder Lake-S include support for PCIe 4.0 and 5.0, DDR4/5 memory, and LPDDR4/5 memory. Moreover, Alder Lake-S will bring design optimisations to the power delivery system, including energy-aware core parking.

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There's also a slide that goes over the Intel 600 series chipset, confirming both DDR4 and DDR5 dual-channel memory will be supported. This support will likely be split up between high-end and entry-level motherboards, with top-end motherboards supporting DDR5-4800 and entry-level boards offering DDR4-3200 support.

The slide further details that the processors will have 16x PCIe 5.0 lanes and 4x PCIe 4.0 lanes, while the chipset supports PCIe 4.0 and 3.0 devices. Additionally, the 600-series chipset will feature the new LGA1700 socket and support Intel Optane Memory H20, Intel LAN PHY, Wi-Fi 6E, and Thunderbolt 4.0 (USB4 compliant).

Intel is scheduled to launch the first Alder Lake processors later this year, although it is unclear if this is a launch for desktop or mobile platforms at this time.

KitGuru says: Intel Alder Lake is a significant design shift for Intel, so it is going to be interesting to see performance at launch. A 20% improvement in single-thread performance sounds promising. Although splitting up DDR4 and DDR5 support between higher-end and lower-end motherboards could cause some confusion. Do you think Intel will separate DDR5 and DDR4 support on 600-series motherboards?

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Intel Alder Lake Mobile CPU line-up and spec details leak https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-mobile-cpu-line-up-and-spec-details-leak/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-mobile-cpu-line-up-and-spec-details-leak/#respond Mon, 08 Mar 2021 15:33:12 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=506817 The Intel 12th Gen Core “Alder Lake” mobile CPU line-up has been leaked. From 5W to 55W TDP, Alder Lake mobile processors will allegedly feature up to 8x small cores, 8x big cores, and iGPUs with up to 96 EUs, allowing them to be used in a range of devices, including laptops and tablets. This particular …

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The Intel 12th Gen Core “Alder Lake” mobile CPU line-up has been leaked. From 5W to 55W TDP, Alder Lake mobile processors will allegedly feature up to 8x small cores, 8x big cores, and iGPUs with up to 96 EUs, allowing them to be used in a range of devices, including laptops and tablets.

This particular leak comes from @9550pro. According to their information, the Alder Lake mobile line-up will consist of 19x SKUs split into 3 main “packages”: Alder Lake-M, Alder Lake-P, and Alder Lake-S. Alder Lake-M will be further split into M5, and U9 processors, Alder Lake-P into U15, U28, and H45 processors, while Alder Lake-S will only consist of the H55 processors.

Starting with Alder Lake-M, there will be 2x M5 CPUs with 5-7W TDP. Destined for tablet use, both SKUs come with 1x big core and 4x small cores, with the main difference being the amount of EUs in the iGPU, which can either be 48 or 64. The Alder Lake-M also includes 4x U9 CPUs targeted at ultra-thin laptops featuring a 9-15W TDP, up to 2x big cores, up to 8x small cores, and iGPUs with up to 96 EUs.

Alder Lake-P seems to be the most comprehensive package, aimed at thin and light laptops. The U15 processors for the mainstream segment have the same specifications as the U9, but TDP ranges from 12W to 20W. Then, there are the U28 processors for “performance T&L” laptops, featuring 96 EU iGPUs, 20-28W TDP, up to 6x big cores, and up to 8x small cores. Lastly, there are the H45 processors for compact and high-performance laptops, featuring the same specifications as the U28, but with a 35-45W TDP instead.

The last package is Alder Lake-S, which only includes the H55 processors for high-performance laptops such as mobile workstations and flagship gaming laptops. With a 45-55W TDP and up to 32 EU iGPU, the H55 processors will come with up to 8x big cores and 8x small cores, putting them on par with their desktop counterparts.

Alder Lake-powered laptops are expected to release later this year. Discuss on our Facebook page, HERE.

KitGuru says: Are any of you looking forward to seeing Intel's attempt at a big.LITTLE style architecture in action? 

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Intel Alder Lake-S processor with 16 cores and 24 threads appears on Geekbench https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-with-16-cores-and-24-threads-appears-on-geekbench/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-with-16-cores-and-24-threads-appears-on-geekbench/#respond Wed, 10 Feb 2021 10:13:35 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=504067 As the launch of Alder Lake processors comes closer, there has been an increase in the number of benchmark database entries for these CPUs. The latest Alder Lake-S leak comes via Geekbench 4, showing the performance of a 16C/24T processor.  First of all, unlike SiSoftware Sandra, Geekbench 4 hasn't yet received a patch adding support for …

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As the launch of Alder Lake processors comes closer, there has been an increase in the number of benchmark database entries for these CPUs. The latest Alder Lake-S leak comes via Geekbench 4, showing the performance of a 16C/24T processor. 

First of all, unlike SiSoftware Sandra, Geekbench 4 hasn't yet received a patch adding support for Intel hybrid architectures, consisting of big cores with hyper-threading and small cores with a single thread. This explains the maximum frequency of 27.2GHz displayed in the Geekbench 4 entry, which is a typo.

This entry features the Alder Lake-S processor with the highest base frequency until now. In the entries we shared of such processors on SiSoftware Sandra and Geekbench 5 databases, the processors were running at a base frequency of 1.4GHz. Then, it increased to 1.8GHz in a second SiSoftware Sandra entry. On this one, the base frequency is set at 2.2GHz.

Paired with 32GB of DDR5 memory, this Alder Lake-S processor scored 6,536 points in the single-core test, placing it between the Core i9-9900K and the Core i9-10900K. In the multi-core test, with a score of 47,870, this processor outperforms both Intel Core i9-9900K and i9-10900K. Considering that this is most likely an engineering sample, these results are already fairly promising.

KitGuru says: Are you thinking about upgrading to Intel Alder Lake-S once these CPUs become available? 

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Intel Alder Lake SKUs unveiled in SiSoftware Sandra, launch tipped for September 2021 https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-skus-unveiled-in-sisoftware-sandra-launch-tipped-for-september-2021/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-skus-unveiled-in-sisoftware-sandra-launch-tipped-for-september-2021/#respond Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:30:57 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=502207 Thanks to a new leak, we now know even more about Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S series of CPUs. These processors aren't due out until the second half of 2021, but SiSoftware Sandra has been updated with support for the full stack of Alder Lake CPUs. In addition to this, the Intel Media Driver has just …

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Thanks to a new leak, we now know even more about Intel's upcoming Alder Lake-S series of CPUs. These processors aren't due out until the second half of 2021, but SiSoftware Sandra has been updated with support for the full stack of Alder Lake CPUs. In addition to this, the Intel Media Driver has just been updated, revealing the integrated GPUs coming with Alder Lake-S processors. 

Intel's Alder Lake platform will be divided into three series: Alder Lake-S for desktops, Alder Lake-P for laptops, and Alder Lake-M for lower-powered devices. Featuring a hybrid architecture with big and small cores, each Alder Lake SKU will come with different core configurations depending on the system it is intended for.

Until now, all entries of Alder Lake processors at SiSoftware Sandra have usually featured some typos. With the new SiSoftware Sandra 20 R14 30.92, the situation should get better since it now supports Intel Alder Lake (ADL-S/P/M), providing users with more detailed information in future entries of these processors.

A couple of new details about Alder Lake-M have also been revealed through Coreboot (via Coelacanth's Dream). As seen in this configuration file, The Alder Lake-M and P have the same CPUID, except for the last digit. Both series have the “0x906”, meaning that both are from the same x86 family and model. The last part of the CPUID, which is the stepping, is where they differentiate, with the Alder Lake-P's ID ending in “a0” and the Alder Lake-M's ID ending with “a1”. If history serves us right, we should expect both architectures to be very similar, with small differences between both.

One of those differences might be the smaller I/O of the Alder Lake-M, as seen in this configuration file from Coreboot. Apparently, it will feature 10x PCH PCIe lanes instead of the 12x found on Alder Lake-P.

Alder Lake-S also got a bit more detailed, specifically its iGPU. According to a submission made on Intel’s open-source Media Driver GitHub (via VideoCardz), the desktop Alder Lake CPUs will feature either the GT0.5 or GT1 Xe-LP iGPUs, featuring the same iGPU architecture as  the Tiger Lake and Rocket Lake platforms. Based on the numbering and previous rumours, there should also be a fully enabled GT2 iGPU, which is expected to be featured in the Alder Lake-P and M series.

As per Uniko's Hardware, Intel is expected to unveil the Intel 12th Gen Core processors and 600-series motherboards in September 2021.

KitGuru says: With Alder Lake-S launching this year, what do you think Intel intends to do with Rocket Lake-S? Should Intel delay the Alder Lake-S to 2022 in order to increase the Rocket Lake-S lifespan?

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Intel is already shipping Rocket Lake and Ice Lake processors, Alder Lake on track for 2021 https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-is-already-shipping-rocket-lake-and-ice-lake-processors-alder-lake-on-track-for-2021/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-is-already-shipping-rocket-lake-and-ice-lake-processors-alder-lake-on-track-for-2021/#respond Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:50:43 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=502149 Intel just had its Q4 earnings call and during its presentation, the current CEO of Intel, Bob Swan, and the upcoming CEO, Pat Gelsinger, gave shareholders updates on the status of several upcoming CPU launches.  First of all, Intel CEO, Bob Swan, has confirmed that the company has already started to ship both Rocket Lake-S and Ice …

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Intel just had its Q4 earnings call and during its presentation, the current CEO of Intel, Bob Swan, and the upcoming CEO, Pat Gelsinger, gave shareholders updates on the status of several upcoming CPU launches. 

First of all, Intel CEO, Bob Swan, has confirmed that the company has already started to ship both Rocket Lake-S and Ice Lake-SP processors to customers. He also stated that the data centre-oriented Sapphire Rapids and Alder Lake mobile and desktop processors are being sampled to customers. Intel Alder Lake CPUs are expected to start mass-production during H2 2021, while Sapphire Rapids' product qualification should be complete by the end of 2021.

Regarding Intel's long-term objectives, the future CEO of Intel, Pat Gelsinger, also came to discuss the current state of the 7nm process node. After “personally examining progress on Intel’s 7nm technology”, Gelsinger stated he is “pleased with the progress made on the health and recovery of the 7nm program”. Intel's next CEO is confident that in 2023, most of the company's products will be manufactured internally, but as Intel's portfolio increases, some technologies will have to be outsourced to external foundries.

You can check Intel's Q4 earnings call transcript HERE.

KitGuru says: Will Intel be able to recover the market share lost in the last few years with its new line-up of processors? 

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Alder Lake-S 16-core processor using DDR5 memory spotted on SiSoftware database https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/alder-lake-s-16-core-processor-using-ddr5-memory-spotted-on-sisoftware-database/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/alder-lake-s-16-core-processor-using-ddr5-memory-spotted-on-sisoftware-database/#respond Wed, 20 Jan 2021 11:37:09 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=501880 A new entry for an Alder Lake-S 16-core processor paired with DDR5 memory has been found on the SiSoftware database. Although this isn't the first entry of an Alder Lake-S processor found in this database, it's the first time we've seen one with DDR5 memory being mentioned.

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A new entry for an Alder Lake-S 16-core processor paired with DDR5 memory has been found on the SiSoftware database. Although this isn't the first entry of an Alder Lake-S processor found in this database, it's the first time we've seen one with DDR5 memory being mentioned.

The SiSoftware entry found by @momomo_us lists a 16-core Alder Lake-S CPU with 32 threads (likely an error), a 1.8GHz base clock and a boost clock of 4.0GHz, which is significantly higher than the previous entry (1.4GHz base). Given that the Alder Lake-S processor architecture features a hybrid design, only the 8x big cores should feature Hyper-threading, therefore, this processor is expected to feature a total of 24 threads. The entry also shows that this processor features 10×1.25MB of L2 cache and 30MB of L3 cache.

The Alder Lake CPU entry also detailed the memory configuration used by the system, reporting that it was using the PC76800 DDR memory specification. Although the PC76800 doesn't exist yet, the actual memory configuration that the system was running was most likely the PC5-38400, which translates to a memory speed of 4800MHz. There are also some details regarding the built-in iGPU of this Alder Lake processor, which should come with 32 EUs (256 Shadings Units) clocked at 1.5GHz.

Intel Alder Lake-S platform is expected to launch before the end of 2021.

KitGuru says: What kind of performance are you expecting from Intel Alder Lake-S processors? Are you thinking about upgrading your system with Intel's 10nm desktop CPUs?

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CES 2021: Intel releases first Tiger Lake-H mobile CPUs, previews Rocket Lake-S https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/ces-2021-intel-releases-first-tiger-lake-h-mobile-cpus-previews-rocket-lake-s/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/ces-2021-intel-releases-first-tiger-lake-h-mobile-cpus-previews-rocket-lake-s/#respond Mon, 11 Jan 2021 21:30:41 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=500444 Intel announced its latest mobile processors at CES 2021, while the company also shed some light on both Rocket Lake-S and Alder Lake-s

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Designed for “enthusiast-level gaming in laptops as thin as 16 millimetres.”, Intel has announced its first three Tiger Lake-H processors. Additionally, the company also shed some light on its upcoming Rocket Lake-S and Alder Lake-S processor architectures, including the release windows for both product series.

Starting with Tiger Lake-H35, here Intel claims it has created a new laptop segment, offering ultraportable laptops (as slim as 16mm) with “enthusiast level gaming prowess”. Featuring PCIe Gen4 and Intel Killer Wi-Fi 6/6E technology, the new Tiger Lake-H35 series will consist of three SKUs with up to 4x cores, 8x threads, 35W TDP design, and a maximum operating frequency of 5.0GHz. Tiger Lake-H processors featuring up to 8x cores, 16x threads, 20x PCIe lanes, and a 45W TDP will come later this quarter. By the first half of 2021, Intel plans to have over 40 laptops available in this market from partners such as Acer, MSI, Asus, Lenovo, HP, Dell, and Vaio.

Intel 11th Gen Core processors for ultraportable gaming will support DDR4-3200 or LPDDR4/x-4267, Thunderbolt 4, and Resizable BAR. Thanks to Intel's SuperFin architecture, Tiger Lake-H35 processors will run at up to 5.0GHz at 35W, offering around 15% more performance than their predecessors. At 15W, Intel says these chips will offer about 9% more performance in single-core workloads and over 40% more performance in multi-thread workloads when compared to Intel 11th Gen Core processors. We are also told the current flagship Tiger Lake-H35 processor can outperform the Ryzen 9 4900H by up  30% in the SPECRATE *2017_int_base single-thread benchmark.

The following table details the first Tiger Lake-H processors to be released:

Name Cores/Threads L3 cache cTDP Up cTDP Down Base clock (cTDP Up) Base clock (cTDP Down) All-Core Turbo 2-Core Turbo 1-Core Turbo
Intel Core i7-11375H Special Edition 4/8 12MB 35W 28W 3.3GHz 3.0GHz 4.3GHz 4.8GHz 5.0GHz (ITBM 3.0)
Intel Core i7-11370H 4/8 12MB 35W 28W 3.3GHz 3.0GHz 4.3GHz 4.8GHz 4.8GHz
Intel Core i5-11300H 4/8 8MB 35W 28W 3.1GHz 2.6GHz 4.0GHz 4.4GHz 4.4GHz

At CES 2021, Intel also talked about the upcoming Rocket Lake-S processor architecture led by the Core i9-11900K, as well as the accompany 500-series chipsets. When compared to the 10th Gen Core desktop series, Intel claims its Rocket Lake-S processors will offer a 19% IPC improvement “for the highest frequency cores”. Intel Rocket Lake-S CPUs will be available in Q1 2021.

Besides Rocket Lake-S, there was also some talk of Alder Lake-S. This series is scheduled to release in the second half of 2021, and it will be Intel's first architecture to make use of “a new, enhanced version of 10nm SuperFin”. Intel also confirmed that Alder Lake-S CPUs will consist of both high-performance (big) cores and high-efficiency (small) cores, meaning that it will feature a hybrid design similar to its Lakefield processors.

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Intel Alder Lake-S processor featuring 16 cores and 24 threads spotted on Geekbench https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-featuring-16-cores-and-24-threads-spotted-on-geekbench/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-featuring-16-cores-and-24-threads-spotted-on-geekbench/#respond Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:31:36 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=499669 The Intel Alder Lake-S leaks keep rolling in. This time, another Geekbench database entry has been spotted, detailing an unannounced, upcoming Intel Alder-Lake S 16C/24T CPU. 

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The Intel Alder Lake-S leaks keep rolling in. This time, another Geekbench database entry has been spotted, detailing an unannounced, upcoming Intel Alder-Lake S 16C/24T CPU. 

Based on the 10nm process node, Intel Alder Lake-S will be the company's first architecture featuring support for DDR5 memory and PCIe 5.0. This processor architecture will feature a hybrid core design, featuring small Tremont cores and big Sunny Cove cores that seem to have hyper-threading as per the Geekbench 5 entry found by @TUM_APISAK.

The processor listed in the Geekbench 5 has 16 cores (8x big and 8x small) and 24 threads, with a reported base clock of 1.38GHz, and a maximum clock of 17.6GHz. The 17.6GHz maximum clock is probably an error and should be the turbo frequency of one set of cores after being divided by 8. Apparently, Geekbench 5 software doesn't handle hybrid architectures such as Alder Lake very well.  This entry also details the cache structure of this processor, which comes with 960KB of L1 cache, 1.25MB of L2 cache per core, and 30MB of L3 cache, similar to what we've found in the SiSoftware entry.

Regarding the scores, given how low the reported clocks are, we should not take them seriously. Nonetheless, it scored 996 in single-core workloads and 6931 in multi-core workloads. Compared to the Intel Rocket Lake-S Core i7-11700K Geekbench 5 scores that we have reported recently, that's almost half of the single-core score and over a third less in the multi-core score. Future engineering samples and retail versions of these processors should score considerably higher than this.

Intel Alder Lake-S CPUs are expected to release in late 2021.

KitGuru says: We're still in early days for Alder Lake-S, so we can expect very different scores later in 2021 as improved engineering samples begin to surface. 

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Intel Alder Lake-S processor picture surfaces https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-picture-surfaces/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-processor-picture-surfaces/#respond Fri, 16 Oct 2020 08:47:41 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=490096 A picture of an alleged Alder Lake-S processor has surfaced. This image shows the back of the processor compared to the back of the currently available Comet Lake-S processors, giving us an estimate of its size and a look at some of the physical differences between both architectures. Intel Alder Lake-S architecture will be the …

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A picture of an alleged Alder Lake-S processor has surfaced. This image shows the back of the processor compared to the back of the currently available Comet Lake-S processors, giving us an estimate of its size and a look at some of the physical differences between both architectures.

Intel Alder Lake-S architecture will be the company's first desktop processors based on its 10nm SuperFin architecture. Expected to launch in H2 2021, VideoCardz states that its sources believe that the launch of the Alder Lake desktop processors will be closer to Q4 2020. This is comprehensible given that Rocket Lake-S is scheduled for a release in Q1 2021.

Alder Lake is a hybrid technology featuring big (Golden Cove) and small (Gracemont) cores. Some of its key features include DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 support (not confirmed), a new hardware scheduler to optimise the workloads through the cores, and the introduction of the new LGA1700 socket.

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Rumours say that LGA1700 socket is expected to last at least three generations. As per the image shared by VideoCardz, the Intel Alder Lake-S package dimensions will increase from the current solutions to 37.5x45mm, 7.5mm taller than the LGA1200. The first photo of an Alder Lake-S processor shows its back and its 1700 contact pads.

Unfortunately sources haven't shared any specifications of the processor. Additionally, this might be an engineering sample different from the final product.

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Intel Alder Lake-S CPU 16-core/32-thread processor spotted https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-cpu-16-core-32-thread-processor-spotted/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-alder-lake-s-cpu-16-core-32-thread-processor-spotted/#respond Wed, 07 Oct 2020 09:28:36 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=488879 A new entry on the SiSoftware database shows an unannounced Intel 12th Gen processor featuring Intel's hybrid processor architecture, Alder Lake. This Alder Lake-S processor spotted on SiSoftware comes with 16 cores, from which 8 are allegedly big cores and the other 8 are small cores, and 32 threads.  Intel Alder Lake-S is reportedly using …

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A new entry on the SiSoftware database shows an unannounced Intel 12th Gen processor featuring Intel's hybrid processor architecture, Alder Lake. This Alder Lake-S processor spotted on SiSoftware comes with 16 cores, from which 8 are allegedly big cores and the other 8 are small cores, and 32 threads. 

Intel Alder Lake-S is reportedly using Golden Cove core architecture for the big cores, and Gracemont core architecture for the small ones. Alder Lake-S is supposedly the first Intel hybrid processor architecture coming to desktop platforms and will be superior to the company's previous take on hybrid architectures (Lakefield) by introducing a new hardware scheduler to optimise the utilisation of the processor's cores.

The new entry on SiSoftware (via @TUM_APISAK) shows an Intel Alder Lake-S processor featuring 8 big cores, 8 small cores, and hyper-threading (32 threads). The reported “capacity” of 24 threads in this entry might mean that only a set of cores will feature hyper-threading or SiSoftware just misread the processor configuration. As per the entry, this processor features a total of 12.5MB of L2 cache and 30 MB of L3 cache. The reported clock speeds were just about 1.4GHz.

Other things to note from the entry is that Alder Lake will support PCIe 4.0, but PCIe 5.0 is also rumoured to be supported. This entry also shows that the system had Wi-Fi 6 and DDR4 memory, but rumours claim that DDR5 will also be compatible. Regarding the iGPU, it looks it will feature 32 CUs and comes clocked at 1.15GHz.

Intel Alder Lake processors are expected to release during the H2 2021.

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More details about Intel Tiger Lake-H, Alder Lake-P, and Alder Lake-S emerge https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/more-details-about-intel-tiger-lake-h-alder-lake-p-and-alder-lake-s-emerge/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/more-details-about-intel-tiger-lake-h-alder-lake-p-and-alder-lake-s-emerge/#respond Mon, 05 Oct 2020 09:06:34 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=488525 A new report detailing Intel's upcoming Tiger Lake-H, Alder Lake-P, and Alder Lake-S architectures has surfaced. These details include core and thread count, process node, cache memory, packaging size, GPU and respective features, memory support, connectivity, PCIe lanes, and security features.

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A new report detailing Intel's upcoming Tiger Lake-H, Alder Lake-P, and Alder Lake-S architectures has surfaced. These details include core and thread count, process node, cache memory, packaging size, GPU and respective features, memory support, connectivity, PCIe lanes, and security features.

Intel Tiger Lake laptops are starting to become available, but Intel Tiger Lake architecture hasn't been fully disclosed yet. A Tiger Lake-H platform is expected to come in the near future, increasing the number of cores, and therefore its TDP. Intel Alder Lake has also been confirmed to be a hybrid architecture, Intel's take on ARM's big.SMALL processor architecture. Official specifications of Tiger Lake-H, Alder Lake-P, and Alder Lake-S have not been shared yet, but Notebookcheck's report gives us an early look of what we might expect from them.

Intel Tiger Lake-H is set to feature a 35W TDP on 4-core configurations, and 45W TDP on 8-core configurations. Both should come with up to 32 execution units (EUs) in their Xe GPUs, which support up to 8K@60FPS HDR video playback. This architecture will feature up to 24MB of LLC cache and Hyper-Threading (HT), resulting in up to 8 cores and 16 threads configurations, and 10nm Willow Cove core architecture. There will be 20x PCIe 4.0 lanes from the CPU and 24x 3.0 lanes from the PCH, while maximum memory supported should be 128GB DDR4-3200. Security features include Total Memory Encryption (TME) and Return-oriented programming (ROP) attack prevention.

The 10nm Alder Lake-P hybrid processor architecture will feature both Gracemont and Golden Cove core architecture, with up to 8 Gracemont cores and 6 Golden Cove cores with HT (12 threads), and up to 24MB of LLC cache. Intel Alder Lake-P will come with Xe LP iGPU with up to 96EUs, and it will support up to 64GB DDR-3200 or 64GB DDR5-4400. PCIe 5.0 support will be introduced, featuring 8x PCIe 5.0 lanes and dual 4x PCIe 4.0 lanes from the CPU, and 12x PCIe 3.0 lanes from the PCH. It will also support up to 4x Thunderbolt 4 ports, Wi-Fi 6E 802.11axR2, and include a Maple Ridge controller. Besides TME and ROP attack prevention, Alder-Lake will also feature Hypervisor-manager Linear Address Translation (HLAT) and Multi-key TME (MK-TME).

Regarding Alder Lake-S, it will also feature Gracemont and Golden Cove core architecture, but it will be with up to 8 Gracemont cores and 8 Golden Cove cores with HT (16 threads), and with up to 30MB of LLC cache. TDP should come at a maximum of 125W, depending on core configuration. Alder Lake-S will also feature Xe LP iGPU, but only with up to 32EUs. It should also support up to 128GB DDR4-3200 or 128GB DDR5-4400 memory and PCIe 5.0, coming with 16x PCIe 5.0 and 4x PCIe 4.0 lanes from the CPU alongside 16x PCIe 4.0 and 12x PCIe 3.0 lanes from the PCH. Thunderbolt support wasn't mentioned, but it will come with Wi-Fi 6E 802.11axR2 support and up to 2x Maple Ridge controllers. Security features are the same as the Alder Lake-P architecture.

The following table sums up all the specifications of each architecture previously discussed:

Feature Tiger Lake-H Alder Lake-P Alder Lake-S BGA
Cores/Threads 8/16 Willow Cove 6/12 Golden Cove + 8/8 Gracemont 8/16 Golden Cove + 8/8 Gracemont
Process CPU – 10 nm;
PCH (Discrete) – 14 nm
CPU – 10 nm;
PCH (In-package) – 14 nm
CPU – 10 nm;
PCH (Discrete) – 14 nm
LLC Cache 24 MB 24 MB 30 MB
Packaging (mm x mm) CPU – 50 x 26.5;
PCH – 25 x 24
CPU + PCH – 50 x 25 CPU – 45 x 37.5;
PCH – 28 x 25
GPU Xe 32 EUs Xe 96 EUs Xe 32 EUs
GPU Features 4x Display-out;
Dual DisplayPort 1.4b;
8K 60 HDR;
12b, AV1 dual encoders
4x Display-out;
DisplayPort 1.4b;
AV1 accelerated encode;
GNA 3.0
4x Display-out;
DisplayPort 1.4b;
AV1 accelerated encode;
GNA 3.0
Memory Support DDR4-3200 128 GB DDR4-3200 64 GB;
DDR5-4400 64 GB
DDR4-3200 128 GB;
DDR5-4400 128 GB
Connectivity 4x Thunderbolt 4 + 1x DisplayPort;
Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax
4x Thunderbolt 4 + 1x Maple Ridge;
Wi-Fi 6E 802.11axR2
2x Maple Ridge;
Wi-Fi 6E 802.11axR2
PCIe Lanes CPU – 20x PCIe 4.0 x16 + PCIe 4.0 x4;
PCH – 24x PCIe 3.0 x24
CPU – 16x PCIe 5.0 x8 + 2x PCIe 4.0 x4;
PCH – 12x PCIe 3.0 x12
CPU – 20x PCIe 5.0  x16 + PCIe 4.0 x4;
PCH – 28x PCIe 4.0 x16 + PCIe 3.0 x12
Security Features Total Memory Encryption (TME), Return-oriented programming (ROP) attack prevention TME, ROP attack prevention, Hypervisor-manager Linear Address Translation (HLAT), Multi-key TME (MK-TME) TME, ROP attack prevention, HLAT, MK-TME

Tiger Lake-H and Alder Lake-P are expected to feature in laptops, while Alder Lake-S should come to desktops, but Notebookcheck's report also suggests that it uses a BGA socket (laptop). The “S” in Intel processors architectures is usually reserved for processors with a TDP above 65W, generally available for desktops only. Considering this, Intel might be planning to introduce higher-powered processors to be used on laptops.

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Leaker shares possible configurations of Intel Alder Lake-S/P and M, possible 14nm iGPU https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/leaker-shares-possible-configurations-of-intel-alder-lake-s-p-and-m-possible-14nm-igpu/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/leaker-shares-possible-configurations-of-intel-alder-lake-s-p-and-m-possible-14nm-igpu/#respond Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:05:21 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=477087 Just yesterday, we shared the leak on Alder Lake desktop processors using Intel Hybrid technology, but it seems that these won't be the only ones. Another leak suggests that both Alder Lake-M and Alder Lake-P will also use Intel Hybrid Technology, which might be a sign that the bigSMALL architecture is here to stay. With Lakefield …

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Just yesterday, we shared the leak on Alder Lake desktop processors using Intel Hybrid technology, but it seems that these won't be the only ones. Another leak suggests that both Alder Lake-M and Alder Lake-P will also use Intel Hybrid Technology, which might be a sign that the bigSMALL architecture is here to stay.

With Lakefield being the first architecture using Intel Hybrid Technology, Intel Alder Lake appears to be next in line to adopt the bigSMALL architecture. As per a new leak from sharkbay (via @momomo_us), Alder Lake will have two more series besides the already known “S series”. This leak came in as a comment to the transcript of a call between Charlie Demerjian and Susquehanna, where it was also mentioned that Alder Lake processors will feature 10nm CPUs and 14nm GPUs.

Alder Lake's S series will be used on desktop processors, with an expected TDP of up to 125W, just like the current Comet Lake-S processors. The Alder Lake-P configuration should be used on Atom Server series, just like the previous “P series” from Intel. The “M series” is expected to be targeted at mobile devices.

The possible core configurations of the Alder Lake-S are said to include one with 8x big plus 8x small cores and another SKU with just 6x big cores. Both SKUs should feature GT1 GPUs. Additionally, leakers also shared the core configurations of the P and M series, with both featuring a 2 x big plus 8x small cores SKU with GT2 GPU, and an additional SKU on the P series featuring 6x big and 8x small cores with a GT2 GPU.

Alder Lake integrated graphics are still unclear, but given that Rocket Lake will use Xe graphics, the same should happen to the following architecture.

KitGuru says: While much of this is rumour for now, It does look like Intel will use its hybrid technology in most of the 12th Gen processors. What do you think of this new strategy from Intel?

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