Ryzen 8000 | KitGuru https://www.kitguru.net KitGuru.net - Tech News | Hardware News | Hardware Reviews | IOS | Mobile | Gaming | Graphics Cards Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:37:29 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/cropped-KITGURU-Light-Background-SQUARE2-32x32.png Ryzen 8000 | KitGuru https://www.kitguru.net 32 32 AMD roadmap leak points to first Zen 5 processors in mid-2024 https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-roadmap-leak-points-to-first-zen-5-processors-in-mid-2024/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-roadmap-leak-points-to-first-zen-5-processors-in-mid-2024/#respond Thu, 02 Nov 2023 17:00:14 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=636117 A fresh roadmap leak has arrived, claiming to show AMD's plans for Zen 5 as we approach the new year. According to the leak, we should see the first Zen 5 processors in mid-2024, as well as new APUs with beefier integrated graphics.  AMD's roadmap, shared by Moore's Laws Is Dead, outlines the various performance …

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A fresh roadmap leak has arrived, claiming to show AMD's plans for Zen 5 as we approach the new year. According to the leak, we should see the first Zen 5 processors in mid-2024, as well as new APUs with beefier integrated graphics. 

AMD's roadmap, shared by Moore's Laws Is Dead, outlines the various performance areas it plans to target with its Zen4/5-based mobile APUs and CPUs. The Dragon Range architecture, designed for high-performance gaming computers, is expected to be the market's leading AMD option in 2024. The plan changes for 2025, with the Zen 5-based Fire Range series coming in with up to 16x Zen 5 cores and a 3D V-cache option.

The Strix series is perhaps the most interesting of the bunch. The Strix Point APUs are expected to be released in mid-2024 and will mark the debut of the first mobile Zen 5 chips. These APUs will feature 12x Zen 5 CPU cores and RDNA 3.5 GPU cores paired with an XDNA 2 unit with 45 to 50 TOPS AI performance.

The Strix Halo, reported to have 16x Zen 5 cores and up to 40 RDNA 3.5 CUs, was initially anticipated to be released in 2024, but this apparent leak shows that it has been pushed to 2025. This suggests that AMD's new ‘Elite Experiences' APU category will not be available next year. This chip is also believed to have an XDNA 2 processor with a performance range of 45 to 50 TOPS.

This roadmap also reveals Hawk Point will include RDNA 3 and XDNA 1 GPU/AI cores. Moreover, it will feature 8x Zen 4 cores and provide 16 TOPS of AI acceleration performance. Its replacement, Kraken Point, will also have 8x cores but will use the newer Zen 5 architecture with enhanced RDNA 3.5 graphics and an XDNA 2 processor.

In addition, there is information about Escher, an 8-core Zen 4 chip with RDNA 3 and XDNA 1 architecture. It is expected to replace Rembrandt-R in 2025. In the meantime, in 2024, AMD will reportedly launch Barcelo-R processors as a mainstream, low-power solution.

KitGuru says: AMD is certainly keeping busy if this leak is accurate. 

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AMD Ryzen 8000 APU spotted with RDNA 3.5 iGPU featuring 16 cores https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-ryzen-8000-apu-spotted-with-rdna-3-5-igpu-featuring-16-cores/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-ryzen-8000-apu-spotted-with-rdna-3-5-igpu-featuring-16-cores/#respond Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:30:48 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=628604 After many rumours regarding the specifications of AMD's upcoming Strix Point APU, we may finally have confirmation of its CPU and GPU core configuration. A recent leak with various screenshots of HWiNFO64 claim the Strix Point APU will feature a hybrid architecture with 4+8 CPU cores and 16 RDNA 3.5 GPU cores. The leak is …

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After many rumours regarding the specifications of AMD's upcoming Strix Point APU, we may finally have confirmation of its CPU and GPU core configuration. A recent leak with various screenshots of HWiNFO64 claim the Strix Point APU will feature a hybrid architecture with 4+8 CPU cores and 16 RDNA 3.5 GPU cores.

The leak is from performancedatabases.com (via HXL), which shared various screenshots of what it claims to be an engineering sample of the APU. As per the pictures, the CPU component of this APU will feature 4x Zen 5 (P-Cores) and 8x Zen 5c (E-Cores). As for the GPU part, the leak indicates that it will have 1024 unified shaders, which means the iGPU has 16 CUs.

While the integrated GPU is labelled “AMD Strix – Internal GPU”, note that this is a consequence of using HWINFO with an unreleased CPU. Moreover, the “512MB GDDR6” memory configuration is most likely incorrect. The screenshots also reveal a 45W TDP and that the APU supports LPDDR5 (the system has 32GB of LPDDR5 memory). Lastly, we also noticed that the chip is based on the FP8 socket, the same one used by the Ryzen 7040U and 7040H(S) mobile chips.

The Strix Point APU won't be the only Ryzen 8000 series chip. AMD will likely create a variety of processors using a mix of Zen 4 and Zen 5 technology and RDNA 3 or RDNA 3.5 integrated graphics.

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KitGuru says: Compared to the Phoenix APUs used by many portable console manufacturers, the Strix Point APU would be a considerable upgrade. Not only does it have more CPU cores, but also more GPU cores running on a newer architecture.

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Leak suggests AMD Strix Point does feature a hybrid architecture https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/leak-suggests-amd-strix-point-does-feature-a-hybrid-architecture/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/leak-suggests-amd-strix-point-does-feature-a-hybrid-architecture/#respond Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:00:33 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=626146 Intel moved towards a hybrid architecture in recent years, offering desktop processors with a mix of performance and efficiency cores. Rumours have claimed that AMD will eventually do the same and now, we have our first piece of evidence of that. New CPU-Z screenshots appear to show an AMD Strix Point processor in operation.  Performancedatabases …

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Intel moved towards a hybrid architecture in recent years, offering desktop processors with a mix of performance and efficiency cores. Rumours have claimed that AMD will eventually do the same and now, we have our first piece of evidence of that. New CPU-Z screenshots appear to show an AMD Strix Point processor in operation. 

Performancedatabases (via VideoCardz) says that it has the first screenshots showcasing a running AMD Strix Point APU. In one of the pictures, we see CPU-Z running, but it doesn't fully recognise the CPU. Still, it can tell you which instruction set is suitable and how big the CPU is. On the other hand, the HWiNFO image shows that the processor in question is a Strix (Point?) chip based on the 4nm process node with a 45W TDP.

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The HWiNFO picture in particular also shows a few details about clock speeds, but it's clear that the data is wrong. Not only does it show a minimum and boost clock speed of 6.375GHz, but also a base clock speed of 8.8GHz, which doesn't make much sense. Still, it's important to note that the information read by HWiNFO suggests the upcoming chips will support AVX2 and AVX512 instructions.

Moreover, the pictures let us see that the CPU has four Zen5 cores and eight smaller Zen5c cores. Both types of cores allow hyper-threading, something that Intel's E-cores don't. Also, it looks like the size of the L1 data cache is 48KB per core, while the size of the instruction cache is 32KB per core. Also, each P-core has 1MB of L2 cache, while the E-cores seem to be grouped in clusters of four cores, with each group sharing 1MB of L2 cache between themselves. The amount of L3 cache on both programs contradicts each other, with CPU-Z showing 16MB and HWiNFO showing 8MB.

KitGuru says: These two screenshots back up the idea that Strix Point APUs are currently being tested. However, it's important to note that these CPUs are still engineering samples, and as such, it will take some time before we see them running on any commercially available devices.

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Alleged 8-core AMD Zen 5 prototype CPU appears in benchmarks https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/alleged-8-core-amd-zen-5-prototype-cpu-appears-in-benchmarks/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/alleged-8-core-amd-zen-5-prototype-cpu-appears-in-benchmarks/#respond Fri, 09 Jun 2023 16:00:00 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=618911 An unannounced AMD processor has begun appearing on benchmark databases. Considering the CPU's ID code, this is thought to be an early Zen 5 prototype. The entries shared by Benchleaks shows an OPN (100-000001290-11_N) distinct from any previous Ryzen CPUs. Moreover, the Family ID of 26 is also new for AMD products. For example, Zen 3 …

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An unannounced AMD processor has begun appearing on benchmark databases. Considering the CPU's ID code, this is thought to be an early Zen 5 prototype.

The entries shared by Benchleaks shows an OPN (100-000001290-11_N) distinct from any previous Ryzen CPUs. Moreover, the Family ID of 26 is also new for AMD products. For example, Zen 3 and Zen 4 architectures used a Family ID of 25 (19H), while Zen 2, Zen+, and Zen were associated with a Family ID of 24 (18H). The introduction of Family ID 26 strongly suggests the development of a new architecture, likely Zen 5.

Both benchmark scores were discovered on distributed computing platforms einstein@home and LHC@home, with both entries having the same OPN code in the “CPU Type” field. Given that the “Number of processors” field on the einstein@home entry is 16, we assume the core configuration of this mysterious CPU is 8C/16T. Interestingly, one system was equipped with a Radeon RX 7900 GPU, while the other had an undisclosed Radeon GPU.

Unfortunately, these benchmark results make it very hard to compare these CPUs with existing ones. Moreover, even if they were, considering these are just engineering samples, there's a good chance they wouldn't be representative of their final performance.

KitGuru says: This isn't the first instance of an engineering sample for AMD's next-generation architecture surfacing on such platforms. It seems that AMD is actively testing the silicon capabilities. We expect to see the first official Zen 5 CPUs in 2024. 

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AMD confirms AM5 platform to be supported through 2026 https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-confirms-zen-5-and-improved-navi-3-for-ryzen-8000-processors/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-confirms-zen-5-and-improved-navi-3-for-ryzen-8000-processors/#respond Tue, 06 Jun 2023 14:30:41 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=618545 During a recent Meet The Expert webcast, AMD shared an updated roadmap that revealed some exciting details about the future of its AM5 desktop socket. The leaked roadmap shared on social media confirms AMD's intention to support the socket for at least four more years and confirms some details about the upcoming Ryzen 8000 desktop …

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During a recent Meet The Expert webcast, AMD shared an updated roadmap that revealed some exciting details about the future of its AM5 desktop socket. The leaked roadmap shared on social media confirms AMD's intention to support the socket for at least four more years and confirms some details about the upcoming Ryzen 8000 desktop processors.

One of the highlights of the roadmap shared by @harukaze5719 is the inclusion of the Ryzen 8000 series (2024), which will feature the Zen5 and Navi 3.5 architectures. This marks the first official mention of these architectures for a specific product. Rumours suggest that AMD's upcoming APU silicon codenamed “Strix Point” will employ either 16 or 40 compute units (CU) based on AMD's newly updated GPU architecture. If true, this roadmap indicates that such APUs could make their way to desktops.

Another interesting detail is the mention of Zen 4 and Navi 3.0 architectures for the Ryzen 7000 desktop series. Currently, the Ryzen 7000 lineup relies solely on the RDNA 2 architecture for its integrated graphics. The inclusion of Navi 3.0 (also known as RDNA 3) suggests that this architecture will be available for the AM5 socket this year. The Phoenix APU, which is already being used in high-end laptops, is the likely candidate to bring Navi 3.0 to the AM5 socket.

The slide showing a portion of the roadmap also states that AM5 socket support will last until 2026, increasing socket longevity for one more year than expected.

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KitGuru says: With Zen 5 coming in 2024, will you be holding off on an upgrade to see what the new platform brings to the table? 

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AMD Zen 5-based Ryzen 8000 mobile CPU specs reportedly leak https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-zen-5-based-ryzen-8000-mobile-cpu-specs-reportedly-leak/ https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-zen-5-based-ryzen-8000-mobile-cpu-specs-reportedly-leak/#respond Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:00:17 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=612548 We're still some ways off from AMD officially announcing new Zen 5 CPUs and its next generation of Ryzen processors for laptops. However, according to a new report, specs are beginning to leak. A new video from Moore's Law Is Dead reports information about the CPU and GPU architectures for Ryzen 8000 mobile processors, including …

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We're still some ways off from AMD officially announcing new Zen 5 CPUs and its next generation of Ryzen processors for laptops. However, according to a new report, specs are beginning to leak.

A new video from Moore's Law Is Dead reports information about the CPU and GPU architectures for Ryzen 8000 mobile processors, including core counts, release dates and basic architecture details.

Starting with Strix Point, this platform is expected to succeed the Ryzen 7040 series. Based on a 4nm monolithic design, these APUs are expected to use a hybrid design with up to 12 cores (4C/8T Zen 5 + 8C/16T Zen 5c) and 24MB of unified L3 cache. Early Cinebench R23 benchmarks show it outperforming a Phoenix APU by 35% at the same power limit (50W). The iGPU will be based on the new RDNA3+ architecture with up to 16 CUs and no Infinity Cache. Still, it's targeted to be on par with an RTX 3050 at 35W. Moreover, these APUs will feature a 20 TOPS AI engine and a 128-bit LPDDR5X memory controller. The first Strix Point chips will apparently launch in Q2/Q3 2024.

Moving on to Strix Halo, it's said it will come as a “large chiplet APU” to rival the Apple M-series chips. Packing up to 16 Zen 5 cores (32 threads), early benchmark results put it above Dragon Range by 25% when both are limited to 90W. Besides the 16-core model, AMD is expected to release 12-core, 8-core and 6-core models. The highlight of this architecture is the iGPU. The report talks about four RDNA 3+ iGPUs with 40, 32, 24 and 20 CUs that will compete with the RTX 4070 (95W), RTX 4060 (65W) and the RTX 4050 laptop GPUs. Lastly, it will feature a 40 TOPS AI engine and a 256-bit LPDDR5X memory controller. The expected release date for Strix Halo is H2 2024.

Details on Fire Range are still scarce, but it's said it will use up to 16 Zen 5 cores (5nm) and an inferior RDNA 2 iGPU. The same happens for Hawk Point, which is rumoured to be a refresh of Phoenix Point based on the 4nm node. The former is expected to debut in H2 2024, while the latter should come sooner, in H1 2024.

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KitGuru says: We're still a long way off from getting confirmation on any of this information, so take it with a grain of salt for now. Zen 5 is marked for 2024, so AMD will have more official details to share closer to the time. 

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AMD Zen 5 ‘Strix Point’ APU to be based on 3nm node and hybrid core architecture https://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/featured-tech-news/joao-silva/amd-zen-5-strix-point-apu-to-be-based-on-3nm-node-and-hybrid-core-architecture/ https://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/featured-tech-news/joao-silva/amd-zen-5-strix-point-apu-to-be-based-on-3nm-node-and-hybrid-core-architecture/#respond Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:19:32 +0000 https://www.kitguru.net/?p=513384 We're still some ways off from seeing AMD launch its Zen 5 architecture, but nonetheless, the rumour mill is churning out some early information. Apparently, AMD's Zen 5 APUs, codenamed ‘Strix Point', will be based on 3nm process technology and feature the emerging hybrid core architecture.  According to MoePC (via @Avery78), the Zen 5 APUs …

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We're still some ways off from seeing AMD launch its Zen 5 architecture, but nonetheless, the rumour mill is churning out some early information. Apparently, AMD's Zen 5 APUs, codenamed ‘Strix Point', will be based on 3nm process technology and feature the emerging hybrid core architecture. 

According to MoePC (via @Avery78), the Zen 5 APUs will reportedly belong to the Ryzen 8000 series and feature a hybrid architecture with up to 8x big (high-performance) cores and 4x small (high-efficiency) cores, which should total in 20 threads.

Scheduled to release in 2024, the Strix Point APUs iGPU performance targets have already been set, but specific details on this were not shared. Besides the jump to a hybrid core architecture, the Zen 5-based APUs may also bring a new memory subsystem with significant changes. It's unclear if these changes will also be seen in Zen 5-based CPUs.

The report also notes that AMD is no longer going forward with plans for the recently rumoured ‘Warhol' series of CPUs, possibly due to the on-going chip shortage. If Warhol is actually out of the picture, then a Zen 3 refresh would be the Ryzen 6000 series, Zen 4 would become the Ryzen 7000 series, and Zen 5 the Ryzen 8000 series.

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KitGuru says: With Strix Point APUs allegedly releasing in 2024, we are still far from seeing something official from AMD. In a 3-year span, much can change, especially with the current chip situation that we are facing. What do you expect from Zen 5-based chips?

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