Things are looking busy, once again, for AMD. Last week, we saw a new set of EPYC processor SKUs released – the 7Fx2 series of high-frequency server/datacentre chips. We have seen leaks and rumours pointing to an impending release of Zen 2-based Ryzen 3 3000 processors. And Luke and Leo talk about the prospect of a Zen 2-based desktop APU akin to what we see from the new Ryzen 4000 Mobile APUs.
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- Why does Leo dislike the name ‘EPYC’?
- Does Xeon mean anything, other than being Intel products?
- The old AMD ‘Opteron’ name probably had to go for the new Zen architecture
- What does ‘F’ stand for with EPYC?
- Those new EPYC 7Fx2 series processors are high frequency
- 8-core, 16-core, 24-core parts seems a bit odd on the face of it
- 240W TDP ratings!
- These are clearly very specific processors for very specific use cases and audiences
- The pricing looks ridiculous compared to non-F series EPYC ‘Rome’ parts at similar core counts
- But given per-core or core-limited licensing for some software packages, perhaps the cost of these faster processors is not so bad
- We mention Oracle’s annoying per-core/per-socket pricing changes. We actually meant VMWare. Doh!
- Maybe 3x the cost versus similar core count EPYC processors is reasonable for these 7Fx2 series chips as software can be so expensive when used for important business projects!
- EPYC 7Fx2 series looks to be a reaction to Intel’s Xeon ‘High Performance’ chips released in Q1 2020
- AMD seems to be happy to take Intel head on in terms of core counts and pricing
- Is the EPYC platform now strong enough to justify price parity versus Intel competitors?
AMD Zen 2 Ryzen 3 3000 Rumours:
- Rumours of two Ryzen 3 3000 – Zen 2 – processors coming very soon
- Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X rumoured – 4C8T, 18MB Cache, 65W TDP
- Clock speed differences between the two, according to rumours
- If true, these will be important for AMD’s current-gen, lower-end product stack. Ryzen 3000 Zen 2 currently stops at around £150-160 with Ryzen 5 3600 and nothing cheaper
- Intel is competitive sub-£150 and particularly sub-£100 – Core i3-9100F at £72, for example
- Will Zen 2 chiplets need to be hamstrung down to the suggested Ryzen 3 specifications?
- Will Ryzen 3 3000 be single-CCX Zen 2 desktop processors?
- Potentially good parts for budget buyers and system builders
- Rumoured Ryzen 3 3000 should be a straight head-to-head fight versus rumoured Core i3 Comet Lake chips
AMD Ryzen 4000 – Zen 2-based Desktop APUs:
- Current Zen 2 APUs only exist in Mobile form – we want desktop versions!
- Ryzen 3/5 3000 series APUs are previous-gen CPU architecture
- What would a Zen 2-based desktop APU need to be priced at?
- Zen 2 on the CPU side of things will definitely make a desktop APU exciting
- 65W or lower TDP for APUs would be good for simple and small form factor (SFF) builds
- Zen 2 CPU plus RDNA GPU in an APU would be exciting for the future
- B450 AM4 motherboards still prove sensible for these lower-cost processors
- Perfect choice for SFF ‘console-killer’ gaming PCs?
KitGuru says: The rumoured Ryzen 3 3000 Zen 2 processors would be good for budget-conscious buyers, but we also want to see a Zen 2-based desktop APU soon! AMD is clearly happy to fight Intel head-on in the server/datacentre market with the 7Fx2 series processors which highlights AMD’s confidence in the strength of its Zen 2-based EPYC ‘Rome’ offerings.